Partial Interview Transcription
Allison Schneider
Jaime: In terms of, like, how… when I went to see a rehearsal, it seemed like everyone was so enthusiastic about what they were playing. How do you think jazz music resonates with people our age? I see people in the band toe-tapping and clapping and snapping to the beat and smiling, and like, really enjoying it. What do you think?
Allison: Um… Well I personally was brought up kind of on jazz. My dad is a really enthusiastic jazz fan and it was just…um…. On all the time, in the car, on road trips. It was, every Sunday morning… I’m from D.C. and there is a jazz Sunday morning on the National Public Radio Station and it’s great but it was just kind of a staple of my family life and it was something that I got excited about with my dad and I think that for people in our generation, if it came from their parents and if that enthusiasm was kind of instilled in them from a young age, then… and if they were listening to jazz then that’s kind of where it resonates with them. I think that for people who’ve never been exposed to jazz and it wasn’t something that connected them or grounded them, like in their family, or in a piece in their lives that’s very important to them, and they never shared that enthusiasm, then they’re less likely to understand jazz. And I think, especially… jazz musicians who play jazz, you have to just listen to jazz because it’s where your inspiration comes from, and imitation is part of improvisation, and so you build vocabulary of jazz phrases from listening to other people solo.
Jaime: Yeah…
Allison: So, I mean, if people are not feeling that music and not connecting with it, then they’re not going to be able to play it very well.
Jaime: So, actually, my next question leads into that. When I went to the rehearsal, it was so great to see so many people have solos in pieces. Are there a lot of opportunities for musicians in the band to have solos and does this ever interfere with the group dynamic? Does it ever create a sense of hierarchy or competition?
Allison: Well, it’s different in jazz combo versus the big band, and I’ve played in both. In jazz combo, it’s a place where we trade eights, we trade fours, we each get to solo on every song. In jazz big band, soloing is a privilege and so I don’t think that people take it for granted, which is a good thing because then you practice and you internalize the chords and you end up working for it and earning that solo. And I don’t think that people resent it. Unless you’re a very jealous person in general, you respect your fellow musician for what they’re doing and you hope that you’re time will come on a song and that like, um…, and that your hard work will pay off in that way.
Jaime: That’s really true. Um… is there every any sense that there’s a follower and a leader within a piece? Jazz is so improvisatory, but I know that you’re always following the music…
Allison: It’s not improvisation, except in the soloing. In free form jazz it is but when you’re doing a big band chart, it’s like you’re playing in orchestra. Rhythmically, you have to be absolutely crystal clear. And so in that way, you’re following the conductor and you follow the music. And whether you’re first alto or fourth alto, or whatever, you have to hold your part, and like, if you don’t, the quality of the piece suffers.
Jaime: Um… then… what makes being part of the jazz band, even a jazz combo… why do you do it?
Allison: Um… I mean I love playing saxophone and umm… Again for me, it goes back to that jazz has always been a part of my life, and so it’s a way for me to connect with my dad, and my relationship with my dad, through that, my relationship with jazz has grown out of that, and I love that it’s just as unique in his life. And you know, it’s just like being a part of a cast. You do it to experience the creative expression of other’s of your peers and like learn from them. I’ve learned so much from people in jazz band and combo who I’ve played with, and yeah, of course there are moments of feeling inferior and feeling challenged in like really distinct ways, and like anything you do, learning how to cope with those feelings, and work harder and rise above those challenges and still find a way to have fun and… realize that you’re bringing something to the group too even though it’s different from something that somebody who practices more might bring.
Jaime: Yeah, that’s really true. What’s the background of must of the musicians who you play with? Do they range from very little experience to intense familiarity?
Allison: Most jazz musicians at Brown are very serious musicians.
Jaime: And why do you think that ticket sales were totally sold out for the Parents Weekend concert?
Allison: Well that’s because it was in Grant.
Jaime: Right… But I even went to the combo concert last week and that was packed with people who I never would have imagined to have gone to hear jazz. Why do you think that is?
Allison: Jazz is an incredible culture and it’s incredible musical style and so its great that there’s a lot of enthusiasm and so many people who might not listen to jazz on their ipods, like would go and see live jazz and support their friends in that. I mean jazz is part of the American culture, too, so if you go to New York City, D.C., Chicago, LA, New Orleans. Like one thing to go out and do at night is go and listen to jazz. And that’s great and there are a lot of people who appreciate good music in all forms.
Jaime: Do you like the pieces that you guys play?
Allison: Yeah. I mean, we play a lot of free form jazz and that was something that I was less familiar with, and it’s definitely been a learning experience for me. I like more traditional forms of bee-bop and Latin jazz and even funk and blues more but there are so many different styles of jazz that it’s like, it’s great to be exposed to them all.
Jaime: Ok, that’s great. Thank you so much.